Thread: The history of this section.
Originally Posted by Moogly:
^ Has a lot of the history. This is the original post Nillus did quite sometime back untouched. It is his view on the history, bear in mind, he didn't experience everything like other users did, so there's obviously things that are missing. :P
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If there's one thing I've learned, archive every source. Especially private one's, cause once you lose it, it's gone. Anyway, the sections still fun I think, I just don't like that it's turned into a massive business for most people.
I was trying to find this post the other day to link here lmfao.^ Has a lot of the history. This is the original post Nillus did quite sometime back untouched. It is his view on the history, bear in mind, he didn't experience everything like other users did, so there's obviously things that are missing. :P
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If there's one thing I've learned, archive every source. Especially private one's, cause once you lose it, it's gone. Anyway, the sections still fun I think, I just don't like that it's turned into a massive business for most people.
@Jonteh you've always been a "fraud" going by past experiences why should anybody trust you these days?
great history, look where (we) are now.
Originally Posted by Moogly:
^ Has a lot of the history. This is the original post Nillus did quite sometime back untouched. It is his view on the history, bear in mind, he didn't experience everything like other users did, so there's obviously things that are missing. :P
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If there's one thing I've learned, archive every source. Especially private one's, cause once you lose it, it's gone. Anyway, the sections still fun I think, I just don't like that it's turned into a massive business for most people.
I so forgot he posted this!^ Has a lot of the history. This is the original post Nillus did quite sometime back untouched. It is his view on the history, bear in mind, he didn't experience everything like other users did, so there's obviously things that are missing. :P
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If there's one thing I've learned, archive every source. Especially private one's, cause once you lose it, it's gone. Anyway, the sections still fun I think, I just don't like that it's turned into a massive business for most people.
Now this is a detailed history of the section lol
Originally Posted by Moogly:
^ Has a lot of the history. This is the original post Nillus did quite sometime back untouched. It is his view on the history, bear in mind, he didn't experience everything like other users did, so there's obviously things that are missing. :P
Never read that before. Good reading a bit of the history of this section. ^ Has a lot of the history. This is the original post Nillus did quite sometime back untouched. It is his view on the history, bear in mind, he didn't experience everything like other users did, so there's obviously things that are missing. :P
I was never really a fan of 'customs' items because they always seemed to look off coloured or just didn't seem to fit the Habbo look but Tsuka made some amazing customs that just blew me (and the rest of the section away), I think it was @salamander@ who modified Tsukas custom CCTs and made them have interactions e.g. opening a door/gate/garage; he also threw up in depth manual on how to create advanced custom items and I think that helped a lot of people of the years.
I enjoyed the Holograph Emulator projects, every time I would come on RZ there would be like 5+ pages added to the thread - mind you it was the same help questions over and over. I personally liked that stage the most because it seemed like a 'real' open sourced product where a lot of people were involved with the project - obviously the foundation being done by Nillus and then updating it every so often was good.
I wish we completed the RZHabbo project, I was really excited about getting that up & running, AJ had a dedicated server that was running Woodpecker (v3) and I think the only thing at the time that was missing was spaces/camera/games and from the tests that were done on the 'BETA' hotel it could of pulled off big numbers - it had pretty much everything, this section was at it's peak, it's own private emulator with a good developer leading the way and the only thing stopping it from what I remember was the senior moderators from RZ having 'personal issues' with Nillus, something about rubbing one of them the wrong way, and a couple of moderators followed their lead and didn't want the RZHabbo,
From what I vaguely remember MentaL wasn't listening to Moogly about the hotel, and they had an argument, and then Carlos didn't want to work with Mental any more. I think it was like a couple of talks later, and Mental was like get the source and we'll still do it without them, from then I new it was going to fail so I didn't bother with it and asked to be demoted from moderator status shortly thereafter. It just seemed at the time it had everything but the barriers were the senior moderators =/
Originally Posted by Moogly:
If there's one thing I've learned, archive every source.
Pretty much every server that needed if I couldn't find in the section
or couldn't find a working link - I'd just ask you and have it within
half an hour lol.If there's one thing I've learned, archive every source.
I
too never contributed anything significant :P but i do remember when
this place used to be a great community. man Moogly, youve contributed
so much over the years its crazy.
Pixelpro, I remember you too! Youve been all over the place as well. :D
Pixelpro, I remember you too! Youve been all over the place as well. :D
Livar 10:23 PM 02-06-12
I've never contributed anything major but was around here when we had "v15". Good days.
On with the Renaissance!
I love how Hebbo doesn't even get a mention.
Originally Posted by Zak©:
On with the Renaissance!
Post that on your own development thread, as far I'm concerned this isn't history.On with the Renaissance!
Originally Posted by Moogly:
My hopes for this community died when it became a business, I don't mind people making money, but when it's off someone else's work, or via destructive means, it's just fucking stupid.
Amen. This is a private server community. Not an entrepreneurial section.My hopes for this community died when it became a business, I don't mind people making money, but when it's off someone else's work, or via destructive means, it's just fucking stupid.
Originally Posted by Quackster:
Post that on your own development thread, as far I'm concerned this isn't history.
It already is dw.Post that on your own development thread, as far I'm concerned this isn't history.
Just showing there is people making decent progress, on the Renaissance, Far as im aware, this is current history.
Originally Posted by Ethicks:
I love how Hebbo doesn't even get a mention.
He rarely ever released his server though, it was always "leaked".I love how Hebbo doesn't even get a mention.
Originally Posted by Moogly:
He rarely ever released his server though, it was always "leaked".
If you go back before all the leaks he released a few that were big such as Hablog which was used by many.He rarely ever released his server though, it was always "leaked".
I
think in the thread you should involve more notes about the culture
rather than the server history. It'd be good to let current hotel owners
know why retros were started in the first place.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I've been around retros since USA111 was released and took off, and back in those days retros were all about rebelling against habbo. People didn't agree with no swearing, so the retro community made servers where you could swear all you want with no rules. People didn't agree with 20 dollars for 50 habbo credits so then it was made possible to have free credits and design new rooms all you'd like. The list goes on with rebelling against staff, etc etc.
Now if you look at retro development today, the things we've innovated such as VIP, customs, and other features we've created have oddly enough shown up on Habbo Hotel. The tables have turned, habbo is trying to copy retros and be one step ahead and they're running out of ideas to keep users on Habbo. They've merged all the english hotels into one and now all it gets is the same user count that one of those hotels would get single handedly. Habbo's sweating, they're helpless and we've bled them dry of all their resources only to turn around and do the exact same thing Habbo does with corny staff, stupid competitions and charging for as much as you can without getting shunned for it.
I think there's no real heroes of the habbo section because of that exact change when retros turned from a hobby into a business. Why would anyone want to develop software for hotels to just leech for themselves and turn a profit off of it?
What's the point of retros now and why are they trying to copy every single aspect of Habbo that retros used to fight against in the first place?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I've been around retros since USA111 was released and took off, and back in those days retros were all about rebelling against habbo. People didn't agree with no swearing, so the retro community made servers where you could swear all you want with no rules. People didn't agree with 20 dollars for 50 habbo credits so then it was made possible to have free credits and design new rooms all you'd like. The list goes on with rebelling against staff, etc etc.
Now if you look at retro development today, the things we've innovated such as VIP, customs, and other features we've created have oddly enough shown up on Habbo Hotel. The tables have turned, habbo is trying to copy retros and be one step ahead and they're running out of ideas to keep users on Habbo. They've merged all the english hotels into one and now all it gets is the same user count that one of those hotels would get single handedly. Habbo's sweating, they're helpless and we've bled them dry of all their resources only to turn around and do the exact same thing Habbo does with corny staff, stupid competitions and charging for as much as you can without getting shunned for it.
I think there's no real heroes of the habbo section because of that exact change when retros turned from a hobby into a business. Why would anyone want to develop software for hotels to just leech for themselves and turn a profit off of it?
What's the point of retros now and why are they trying to copy every single aspect of Habbo that retros used to fight against in the first place?
Most looking forward to the new releases the future will bring